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Telefonų modeliai => BenQ => Kiti => BenQ-Siemens => Temą pradėjo: Simply_Awake Gruodžio 27, 2005, 15:02
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(http://www.mobile-review.com/uploads/S88.jpg)
benq s88
turs 2MPix kamera su autofokusu,16x zoom, palaikys PictBridge ir bluetooth
240*320 oled ekranas, mp3 grotuvas, video irasymas ir atkurimas 3gp formatu, sms, ems, mms, email, Mini SD korteliu palaikymas.
(http://www.mobile-review.com/uploads/Hermes_C5_1.jpg)
hermes c5
originalus atlenkiamas telefonas su 128*160 TFT ekranu, atvaizduojanciu 262K spalvu.
1.3 MPix kamera, mp3 grotuvas su mp3, aac, wma formatu palaikymu
sms, ems, mms, email, bluetooth
(http://www.mobile-review.com/uploads/E71_3.jpg)
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siemens e71
240*320 pixeliu ekranas (262K spalvu)
audio failu grotuvas
edge, IMPS ir email,bluetooth, mini SD korteliu palaikymas
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neblogai, neblogai. tik pavadinimai durni. anksciau buvo paprasta pvz c30; 35; 45; 55; 65; 75 ir t.t. o dabar tai... manau esme supratot.
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Man tai benq s88 labai primena Nokia 6234 modelį, jie turėtų konkuruot vieam segmente manau...
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man labiau panasu i atsakyma i SE k750i
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Matos kad BenQ turi itakos :)
Man tai E71 patiko, as uz slankiojancius ;D
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man labiau panasu i atsakyma i SE k750i
na kad ekranas už SE tai visa galva didesnis, o vat su nokia kaip du vandens lašai...
Galbūt kitomis savo charakteristikomis ir skirtas su SE konkuruot, tik įdomu būtų sužinot ar jie jau yra parduodami ar tik coming soon, ne tokiu atveju jiem teks konkuruot jau tik su SE k750i įpėdiniu.
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Na va paaiškejo tikrieji šių modelių pavadinimai.
siemens E71 - BenQ - siemens EL71
siemens SLV140 - BenQ - siemens EF81
hermes c5 - BenQ - siemens EF51
planuojamas dar vienas modelis s75, greičiausiai tai bus pervadintas BenQ S88
modeliių prezentacija turėtu įvykti sausio 17 dieną.
šaltinis: modopo.de ir mobile-review.com
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EF81 Techniniai duomenys (http://www.benqmobile.com/repository/1278/127827/EF81_Datasheet_e.pdf)
(http://www.club-siemens.net/blog/pics/ef81.jpg)
S88 Techniniai duomenys (http://www.benqmobile.com/repository/1278/127831/S88_Datasheet_e.pdf)
(http://www.club-siemens.net/blog/pics/s88.jpg)
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(http://g.delfi.lt/images/pix/file8549376_BenQ_Siemens_Joos_Wang_300dpi.jpg)
http://www.delfi.lt/news/economy/ITbussines/article.php?id=8549249
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na s88 wisai wiliojantis modelis,tik gjla jog be symbian :(
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Ne viskas kas gera symbian. :D Nors šeip man tos naujienos nelabai.. Aišku funkcionalumas geras, bet vienas k750 o kiti razr kopijos... :( Ir tai kuria siemens kuris kažkada buvo dizaino etalonu.. (me45 pavizdžiui)
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http://www.mobilmania.sk/files/obrazky/vystavy/benqjanuar/index.htm
http://www.siemensmania.cz/content.php?id=691
Nemazai aukstos kokybes nuotrauku ;)
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S88 modelio data cabel - DCA-150. Kuo jis skiras nuo DCA-510? ;D Gal tik 1 su 5 sumaisyti?
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S88 modelio data cabel - DCA-150. Kuo jis skiras nuo DCA-510? ;D Gal tik 1 su 5 sumaisyti?
Sita as ir buvau pastebejes, bet kazkaip numojau ranka...ar tik nebus kad nauji kabeliai siems telefonams :-\
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Dar kart paziurejau EF81, ten data cabel DCA-100.
Koks tikslas leist nuajus kabelius ??? Kuom nauji gali but pranasesni uz senus? :-\
Laidas yra laidas ;D
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Idomiai, visai kitokia jungtis nei anktesniuose Siemens modeliuose ::) Na cia jau Benq itaka
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gal skirsi patys kistukai y telefa... :-\
arba paprasciausiai nori daugiau uzdirbt is nauju kabeliuku :-\
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s88 tai BenQ gaminys tai nieko naujo, kad kabeliai skirsis.. Dėl kitų modelių tai lyg ir neturėtu.. Bent jau labai nesinorėtu.. Šeip BenQ gali keisti kabelius, kad pabrėžti, kad skiriasi nuo siemens mobile...
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http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/ef51 (http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/ef51)
http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/s81 (http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/s81)
http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/ef91 (http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/ef91)
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Siemens (Siemens-BenQ) EL71 NUOTRAUKOS (http://www.siemensmania.cz/content.php?id=721)
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Įdomi foto. BQS s88 ir SE k750i ekranu sulyginimas...
(http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/6647/06011800046tg.jpg) (http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/6647/06011800046tg.jpg)
o štai http://www.onliner.by/test/gsm/benq_s88_s50_firstdate/ (http://www.onliner.by/test/gsm/benq_s88_s50_firstdate/)
nedidelis s88 ir p50 testas. Kalbama vien apie išvaizda, bet paskaityti ir pažiūrėti foto visai įdomu.
Naujiena apie BenQ mobile:
http://www.digitimes.com/telecom/a20060227A7043.html
Dar daygiau EL71 foto:
http://www.siemensmania.com/content.php?id=734
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Dar keleta naujų modelių. Vakare įdesiu naujieną apie juos. O kol kas linkai:
E61
http://www.sogi.com.tw/park/content.asp?a_id=1155&topage=2
http://www.gophone.com.tw/report/hottest/content.jsp?sn=0603020002
CL71
http://www.sogi.com.tw/park/content.asp?a_id=1155&topage=3
CF81
http://www.sogi.com.tw/newsogi/sogiPit.asp?pro_no=2102
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(http://www.mobile-review.com/exhibition/image/2006/3gsm/wm-simb-lin/2064.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/exhibition/image/2006/3gsm/wm-simb-lin/2065.jpg)
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O kas cia per paskutinis modelis? Kaip suprantu cia jau multimedia kazkoks grotuvas :)
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na, čia dvb - h device... kiek supratau tai turi jis operacinę sistėma, tv tiunerį, 240*320 pikselių ekraną. Manau per CeBIT sužinosim daugiau.
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tai online vertimas
S68 test report
as collecting main Meilows outstanding arranged layout served
So now finally I may hold it in hands...
As the first expects one the Siemens typical from the size cardboard, which comes along however now easily modified in BenQ Siemens look.
I.e. one sees now many lila in the same Look as on www.benq siemens.com the homepage.
The packing contains:
- BenQ Siemens S68 Brushed aluminum/FRG Retail software version 20
- standard European Union battery charger
- Akku (660mAh)
- operating instructions + Quick start Guide
CD Rome with Phone manager and Businesses applications andren
obvious novelty/changes
new nano- Lumberg Schnitstelle, new menu Design with 12 symbols
General:
So after one could admire the S68 in the packing by the transparency foil, and it looks very wertig gehts now to to unpack.
After the Akku was used and the associated cover was fastened can it loose-go.
For users those repeatedly your Sim maps change, should add one directly that these regard the Akkudeckel best before more near around to know where the taps into mobile phone reach.
This erleichert opens nevertheless uncommonly =)
When first turning on the starting assistant comes, and it should be deposited Uhzeit as well as date with time belt.
When this had happened, my S68 remained only suspiciously for a long time coming to a hold, I thought already again oh no please not the same tragedy, as with fatal nose alla the S75/SL75 Erstlieferung.
Note: Thus have calmly with first to start the something
Patience, and give to the part somewhat more time. Because which lasts for a long time becomes finally well.
The part should come probably uerspruenglich as MC75 on the market, still recognizes one into the Firmareabfrage. There it spends itself in the field Basline as MC75ipx
Housing, processing:
The S68 leaves a very noble, stable and all also wertigen impression. The complete front consists the back bowl from wertigem hard plastics of brushed aluminum.
The keys are all together also from a high-quality material, one it for a long time with Siemens did not see.
Whereby I am not safe whether it also Aluminim concern ', that become however surely andre user to still clarify to be able. -)
With its proportions it lies optimally in the hand and might be straight for 6310i user of the ideals Business companion.
Still to it it hardly lays on it absolutely trouser pocket suited by to very thin building method and is, carries by those and thus hardly lays on by the 78,5g.
From the external dimensions it is in approximately comparably with that 6100 of nokia only somewhat flatter, works however due to the missing roundnesses more largely.
Since I today straight again in an electrical specialized market Moto SLVR L6/L7 in the hand had can I say between these two and the BenQ of the processing worlds lie purely.
It is a completely andres feeling the cold metal on the hand to feel...
Display:
As the first one should change deas terrible standard Theme of which first is adjusted. Because straight line of the orange bar in the menus smeared nevertheless strongly and lets all super work in a diffuse way.
I thought only "see now abruptly so bad I, or am meanwhile attacked my eyes by the fatigue".
So after now the topic of butterflies is eingstellt, nevertheless already around worlds better out, no comparison foresees too.
The display leaves a very good impression. The used dissolution of 132x176 pixels could be naturally somewhat higher, but by the 256K colors become effective background pictures nevertheless very well. The competition offers there in any case already more, it fulfilled however within the Business range surely its purpose and one can thereby Great SMS write and read, since this 9zeilig is represented.
With MMS it looks no longer optimal completely so, but it is enough for the most necessary.
In order to use the Akku optimal guess/advise I in addition the brightness and the contrast to adjust. In addition one goes into attitude/announcement, and here I adjusted 40% with me equal lighting and contrast 50%, which guarantees still very good legibility.
Additionally I deactivated still EGPRS, and put the function on a Shortcut. If it is nevertheless needed now, I can activate it fast and simply. There I eh with this mobile phone MMS to dispatch and received would not like thus hardly disturb me.
Keyboard:
The soft key/listener keys make a stable impression and are very well, even more grobmotoriker might selbige hardly problems prepare.
Same applies also to the remaining keyboard (numeric section) also this makes a very tidy impression, all keys is defined by the gaps well from each other and has so far a pressure point unusually good for Siemens conditions.
Straight one for SMS Vieltipper might be that a clear advantage.
With that 5 ways Navi keys one comes to umgewoehnung more sher well more briefly clearly, no comparison to wobbly Joysticks like you with many mobiles is blocked.
We come to the key lighting, this are still short in white held. Finally also the key field as well as the soft keys are beautifully evenly lit – Pictures of it gibts also still.
Menu structure:
The menu is aufgepeppt complete and has now finally 12 symbols, as there is this with SE already for a long time.
Yes and finally one erhoert flehen many user, one has now simple meaningful however nevertheless stylishe symbols.
It was also genuinly at the time which one connection to the andren manufacturers finds here.
Since it concerns with my test equipment a completely free FRG equipment, the menu with no Branding is ruined.
As to look one can only suspect the Netzbetreiberversinen.
Me has a horror however if I with now the symbols finally succeeded only of t-Mobile/Vodafone variants think must.
Message - contacts - call lists
Mobile box - Organizer - bell
Bell tones - InterNet - plays
Extra - Media pool - attitudes
One can also adjust as with so far nahzu all original Siemens Phones a large opinion, then mine has a lattice menu like one this from many Nokia mobile phones knows.
To me personal however the lattice opinion assures rather, one comes thereby without pedantic leafs substantially faster to the goal.
Naturally the S68 Themes supports, then one can adapt problem-free the optics easily. Which mentions above as, at the beginning directly force necessary is
Icons and menus should be able to be changed also over appropriate Tools.
With the tax cross one comes by clicks upward directly into the profiles, clicks left starts SMS, right goes it into the collecting entrance, and with a movement it goes downward into the address or directory.
One can define these in addition, even under Einstellunge/Hotkeys/Navi keys and under a multiplicity of functions select. Shortcuts for the soft keys to be adapted likewise.
Figure keys leave themselves already like it with with Siemens since eternities course and give are with each erdenklichen Shortcut or in addition, with a call number to anyway almost occupy, then finally times with all manufacturers introduction should take.
Camera:
Camera does not give it, but I do not have to say I miss these with the S68 absolutely at all.
Because if which is to be taken up gibts with me ne correct DigiCam.
And straight for Businesses people this point could be purchase crucial still also in addition.
Because in Sicherheitssensitiven ranges Camera Phones are unwanted, and who gives already gladly its mobile phone.
Operation:
From the operation one gets along easily. As with each Siemens one actually does not need to have read guidance, in order to get along in the menu.
All in all it might not be for SE/Nokianutzer large Umgewoehnung, and mobile phone should be quite simple to serve.
And straight by the new 12er menu was verinfacht still so some and/or is still better attainable.
Tabs in the control panels do your remaining to the control comfort.
Akku/language quality/receivings caracteristics:
With the language quality I would settle the S68 very highly as one from most Siemens mobiles also so far was used.
One can understand the interlocutor very clearly and clearly, and comes also on the opposite side well more rueber. The volume is enough in the current form to the X65 series near.
During the discussion this can adjust problem-free by those laterally on the right of appropriate keys (above/down).
Acquit functioned also smoothly, and pleasantly loud.
Over the Akkulaufzeit in the everyday life enterprise naturally momentarily still no statement can be met.
It is indicated from manufacturer side as up to 300h Standby and 300min consulting hour, which might be rather improbable to reach probably however.
One will probably be able to draw closer conclusions only soon.
Of the receipt in the D1 net one can say it on S55 level lies at least. A comparison to the S65 gibts probably tomorrow.
With Eplus I had the whole time one great receipt.
But for this are the Siemens mobiles usually admit been
Connectivity:
The equipment no IrDA interface, this surely some painfully however Nokia will had unfortunately miss machts before it go also without.
However it has finally Bluetooth
Syncen should be possible over the provided MPM von BenQ BenQ-Siemens.
I use eh s25@once, probably both program products however to test only tomorrow will however usually be able.
GPRS Class 10 support is so to some extent sufficient for the data practicing rising up, however fun makes if one by UMTS was naturally not really delicate already.
Whereby the part knows also EDGE, juhu, now wirds only time the t-mobile as in some Voertraegen was announced really into Punkto EDGE into the pushen comes. Same applies to all andren German Provider.
Test I to 3.3. in run the daily:
The WAP Browser after WAP 2,0 standard works quite quickly is however naturally in the information flow-rate by GPRS limited. It hands naturally out around small information on the move´ to catch up.
But straight if one UMTS speed is used, must one in this regard surely reductions make.
Office function:
- contacts store address, email address, URL, caller picture, birthday, etc. with several call numbers.
Here one has almost any erdenkliche field, as it will probably so never give with Samsung
-Der Organizer seizes at least 500 note/dates sees also picture in left:
Date storage location
- calendars with daily/week/monthly opinion into which the following functions to be deposited know: Memo/Anrufnotiz/Besprechung/Srpachspeicher/Geburtstag/Urlaub
- task list/calendars including extensive memory functions
- various, personalisierbare profiles (e.g. sound lot, discussion, outside)
- E-Mail Client
further gibts nich the following:
Dictating machine/computer/Umrechner/ COUNT down stop watch date computer currency computer pocket calculator Zeitzonen/Fern Sync
So far I knew only the document Viewer promised from the Datasheet (word, xls, pdf) as well as mobile ZIP yet to discover, evtl is that aud the begelegten CD.
Result:
With the S68 BenQ Siemens a very interesting and solid mobile supplies straight with Businesses customers to arrive good might.
Likewise customers might put the besondren value on optics and Haptik with this new however nevertheless quite favorable Phone very well to drive. The display could naturally have offered a somewhat higher resolution, and one may expect naturally also no memory and MultimediaTalent, because on these customers the equipment zeilt surely not off.
But straight in its class would be allowed to do that mobile phone its buyers finden.in these
Finally also ' the old user surface was thrown over the hauden, stands for the mobile also well to face.
And straight by the BT-SAP support can one now KFZ Freisprecheinrichtungen use, and is a more than equal competitor to the Nokia 6021.
Foto:
(http://www.micromobile.de/pix/s68_01.JPG) (http://www.micromobile.de/pix/s68_08.JPG)
(http://fwww.micromobile.de%2fpix%2fs68_02.JPG) (http://www.micromobile.de%2fpix%2fs68_03.JPG)
(http://www.micromobile.de/pix/s68_04.JPG) (http://www.micromobile.de/pix/s68_06.JPG)
(http://www.micromobile.de/pix/s68_07.JPG) (http://www.micromobile.de%2fpix%2fs68_09.JPG) (http://www.micromobile.de%2fpix%2fs68_10.JPG) (http://www.micromobile.de/pix/s68_11.JPG)
(http://www.micromobile.de%2fpix%2fs68_12.JPG) (http://www.micromobile.de/pix/s68_13.JPG)
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http://www.mobiles.lt/straipsniai/1/1/794
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Dar nespejau perskaityt viso to review auksciau, bet jauciu bus gana idomu iki galo perskaityt :)
http://www.mobiles.lt/straipsniai/1/1/794
Parasyta bus pristatytas P51 modelis, bet neseniai dar tik P50 buvo :-\ Ar cai taip gaunas kad P50=P51?
www.ebay.com Taivanijos yra vienos modelis, hmm...idomiai cia :)
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Dar nespejau perskaityt viso to review auksciau, bet jauciu bus gana idomu iki galo perskaityt :)
http://www.mobiles.lt/straipsniai/1/1/794
Parasyta bus pristatytas P51 modelis, bet neseniai dar tik P50 buvo :-\ Ar cai taip gaunas kad P50=P51?
www.ebay.com Taivanijos yra vienos modelis, hmm...idomiai cia :)
Kaip supratau tai p51 tai p50 su gps, wm 5.0, 3d garsu etc., na ir dizaino pakitimais, greičiausiai.
http://www.benqmobile.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,hq_en_0_139040_rArNrNrNrN,00.html
(http://www.modopo.com/fileadmin/modopo/phone_gallery/P51/P51.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/P51_TwistedLeft.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/P51_Side.jpg) (http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200603/08/20060308103256_MOB094/Benq-Siemens_P51_s.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/C81_TwistedRight.jpg)
(http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/C81.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/EL71.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/CL71.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/CF61_TwistedLeft.jpg)
(http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/CF61_open.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/CF61_Front_Open_Headset.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/EL71_TwistedLeft_Open_Anthracite.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/EL71_TwistedRight_Closed_Anthracite.jpg) (http://www.modopo.com/uploads/pics/EL71_Side_Open_Anthracite.jpg)
EDIT:
Atnaujinti aprašymai
http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens
http://www.onliner.by/news/08.03.2006/13.20/
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http://cebit.mobilmania.cz/?q=node/1071
http://www.mobiles.lt/straipsniai/1/1/798
(http://www.mobilegazette.com/images/benq-siemens/benq-siemens-cebit-06.jpg)
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http://www.mobile-review.com/exhibition/cebit2006-benq.shtml
Netikiu savo akimis..eldaras pagyrė BQS.... :o something fushy here...
Gal BenQ jam pagaliau mokėt pradejo ::)
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http://mforum.ru/phones/tests/025230.htm
S68 drive testas rusu kalba
http://www.sotovik.ru/news/interview/interview_4144.html
Labai įdomus interviu su BenQ Siemens atstovu
http://www.mobiles.lt/straipsniai/1/1/800
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http://www.sotovik.ru/news/interview/interview_4144.html
Labai įdomus interviu su BenQ Siemens atstovu
Man patiko paskutinis sakinys/citata is to review: BenQ-Siemens "has only updated" that consumers always received from Siemens. :D
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http://cebit.mobilmania.cz/?q=taxonomy/term/12
siūlau pažiurėti video, gan įdomūs.
Bet man nelabai patiko BenQ UiQ..
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http://php.benqmobile.com/forum
BenQ mobile oficialus forumas pradėjo veikti ;)
M-series
I've found 2 good news about M-series:
1: All upcoming M Class phones will be resistant to splash water, shock and dust. (from BenQ Mobile Press Portal)
2: Answer by BenQ Mobile Sweden regarding more M-class phones like the M75 (from yesterday):
"We've had great increase in this segment for some time now and hope to follow up this with new models in near future".
I hope this can only mean one thing :)
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Dear Sir or Madam,
please be so kind an remove the informations regarding the BenQ Design
Study "Ruby" from you Web Page.
These Information are protected with EU-copyright law. You infringe our
copyright if you leave this information on you web page.
best regards
Christian Hacker
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Christian Hacker
BMG CS Security
BenQ Mobile GmbH & Co. OHG
Südstraße 9
47475 Kamp-Lintfort
Germany
Tel: +49 (2842) 95-4680
Fax: +49 (2842) 9592-4680
P.S straiipsnį pašalinau ;D
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http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/m_81
http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/ef71
http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/a58
http://www.mobiles.lt/aprasymai/benq-siemens/a38
Į tinklą papuolę dar nepaskelbto BenQ mobile mobiliojo telefono E81 nuotraukos ir kai kurios charakteristikos.
Modelis gaus 176x220 vaizdo elementų ekraną atvaizduojanti 262 tūkstančius spalvų, 3G (UMTS) ryšio standarto ir Micro SD atminties kortelių palaikymą, o taip pat 1,3 milijono taškų fotokamerą.
http://www.mobiles.lt/images/Naujienos/2006-06/E81_2.JPG
http://www.mobiles.lt/images/Naujienos/2006-06/E81_1.JPG
http://www.mobiles.lt/images/Naujienos/2006-06/E81_Camera.jpg
Negaliu naujienos įdėti, kažkokie bugai matyt... ::)
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http://www.mobile-review.com/uploads/E81_Front.jpg
http://www.mobile-review.com/uploads/E81_Keypad.jpg
http://www.siemensinfo.de/images/e81_05.jpg
http://www.siemensinfo.de/images/e81_06.jpg
http://www.siemensinfo.de/images/e81_08.jpg
http://www.siemensinfo.de/images/e81_10.jpg
http://www.siemensinfo.de/images/e81_11.jpg
http://www.siemensinfo.de/images/e81_12.jpg
http://www.siemensinfo.de/images/e81_13.jpg
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www.benq-siemens.com pasirodė naujas modelis EL91
(http://www.club-siemens.net/blog/pics/sl91.jpg)
Daugiau nuotraukų ČIA (http://www.benqmobile.com/cds/frontdoor/0,2241,hq_en_0_162290_0_2%253A4_1%253A162290_8%253A10,00.html)
Siemens again demonstrates that only they can make proper sliders, this time with the SL91. This gem, which is smaller than the SL75, sports 3G, a 3.2MP AutoFocus camera, a second VGA camera for videocalls, RDS Radio, a 2" QVGA screen with 16 Mio. colours, a micro-SD card slot, Bluetooth and a Media Player that even supports the RealPlayer 8/9 formats. There are no outside keys, but rather a set of touch sensitive sensors.
Taip pat buvo pristatyi E71 ir E81...daugiau info www.benq-siemens.com arba www.club-siemens.net
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Matau BQ-S fotkėm ir ifo dalinatės. Jai kam reikia galiu ,,Mini Prewiev'a'' parašyti. :laugh: